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August 01, 2012 10:58:44am |
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Spring 1990 Box Set |
http://www.dead.net/spring1990I know some folks won't share the sentiment, but I always like to see Brent-era releases. Call me a child of the 80's (apologies to Joan Baez). However...
I'll be passing on this item. Two hundred bucks seems steep for 6 shows. (The memorabilia has no appeal for me.) If they had thrown in 3/24 and 3/29, they might've had me. My two favorite shows of that tour. Kind of a shame.
This post was modified by ice9freak on 2012-08-01 17:58:44
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Pretty disappointed here. I am not familiar with most of these shows, so it will be interesting to hear when I "buy" this set...but I am generally not a huge fan of this era. Someone said they thought 68-69 sounded like "pots and pans", well that's exactly what that midi horseshit sounds like to me most of the time. Let's please get a '67 release next!!
Edit- oh and no 3-29-90!? Now that's appalling!
This post was modified by clementinescaboose on 2012-08-03 15:33:35
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Appalling.
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August 01, 2012 02:40:04pm |
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Sounds like one of those Olympic stories where the judges screw an athlete out of a medal...
If you all are sick of this, please feel free to nominate me to pick the next box sets and let dead.net know, I'll make sure the next choice is something good.
I will not be purchasing this...
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certainly a little disappointed with this release. However, 3-22-90 is quite a solid show with one of the best TOOs played after oh say like 1979. Along with many other gems, a long time favorite of mine. I think its good that spring 1990 got its recognition, i do agree with bob in that it was easily some of their best eras for playing. I still wouldve preferred a fall 68 or fall 72 box set.
Another note, this music is so close to the warlocks release, and crimson indigo, I would've preferred to get something else out before spring 90
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I am also taking a pass on this one for the same reasons you mention. I can't figure out how you release shows from this tour and not include 3-29 and 3-24. They have re-released shows before (see the Vault Box which only had 1 new show and of course Germany shows from E72) and only one song has been released from 3-29 anyways.
I hoping for a silver lining on this one but it is a slim hope. When they had the Egypt release (Rockin' the Cradle), they linked it to the Road Trips series (1.4). I am now hoping that Dave's Picks Vol. 4 will be 3-29-90. Then i only have spend 30 bucks on the show i would really want the most from that tour!
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August 01, 2012 05:56:22pm |
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Meh - Archive.org, shnflac.org, etc. How much of 1990 do you really need to have their best.
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August 01, 2012 12:41:15pm |
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And not a single Dark Star or Morning Dew in the whole mess?
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August 01, 2012 12:54:45pm |
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Dew from the Knick 3/26, sadly missing on Dozin'.
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I guess the silver lining is that alot of other good music wasn't released so its still available for streaming.
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August 01, 2012 07:17:11pm |
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thank you
Rat, I didnt want have to say it again. Up with CREAM I say... the later years I mean.
my ears cant always tell the difference, but my wallet can
bigger ears? or bigger wallet? no answers ladies...
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based on that , one could buy it and have 200 bucks sadly missing from wallet!
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constellation is the indian headress on skeleton Tshirt.
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August 01, 2012 01:23:46pm |
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"This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically."
I will never understand this. Buy it now or never hear it again. That makes no sense at all.
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August 01, 2012 01:59:48pm |
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Wes Langs artwork is awesome!
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August 01, 2012 11:55:54am |
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Tragic...
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August 01, 2012 11:01:28am |
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There is some good music on here, but this doesn't exactly ring my bell. For one thing, the later-era shows already sound pretty great the way we have them, and I'm still paying off Europe '72 ....
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August 01, 2012 11:06:11am |
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In this link(
http://www.dead.net/spring1990) there is a little video clip where Bob claims that the early 70s, late 70s and 89-90 were the bands best eras.
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August 01, 2012 11:12:20am |
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Might as well just say "The 70s."
I enjoy the 89-90 period, but there is no way that 1989-90 is better than 1968-69. Come on, Bob. Get real.
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August 01, 2012 01:15:30pm |
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All in the ears of the beholder. To my ears, 68-69 are the most overated years of their history. Would much rather listen to ANYTHING from '70 to '90 than either '68 or especially '69. No Joke!
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August 01, 2012 03:52:27pm |
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I agree, even though we are in the minority. That era sounds like pots and pans to me.
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August 01, 2012 04:28:01pm |
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To each his/her own, but I'd much rather listen to "pots and pans" than hearing a keyboard sounding like half-filled milk bottles.
At least that's $200 that I will be "saving."
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August 01, 2012 05:47:52pm |
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Like I said...I'm in the minority
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August 01, 2012 06:01:47pm |
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I should have added that I'm probably also in the minority, just on the 68 side.
Though my current "favorite" period is December of 73. A time that makes you wish that Donna had another child or two.
btw: Recently I dl'ed a 1990 show, 9-20 (my b-day), in order to listen to a dark star that receives high marks. Though surprisingly, I have yet to be in the mood to give it a spin.
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August 01, 2012 07:21:09pm |
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December '73 fan myself... often go to sleep to Dark Star>Eyes>Stella Blue from 12/6.
But for some reason, I have really been digging Sept. '90 lately, specifically the DP + RT releases, and the New Year's Eve show as well. And I have been a hardline Keith-era guy forever.
Vince was given some super cheesy keyboard sounds to work with, but man...B.M. CHOSE his. Somehow this makes me give Vince a pass. That and his singing doesn't make me want to jump out a window with quite such urgency.
I'm sure I'm in the minority too though.
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August 01, 2012 07:45:46pm |
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That's a very good point regarding Vince and his keyboard selection. Even though I've known it, it still didn't stop me from blaming him for it. Until now...THANKS!!!
Ok, I'll give 90-09-20 a listen and return to the day that I turned 40.
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August 02, 2012 09:08:06pm |
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that eplains why when i dreamed i was at a show from 68 the other nite i woke up with dishpan hands.....
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August 01, 2012 01:37:25pm |
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Yikes! Well, to each his own... But personally I'll take Dupree's> Mtns of the Moon> Dark Star> Stephen> Eleven over pretty much anything else in their repertoire.
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August 04, 2012 08:49:01am |
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Me too.
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August 04, 2012 01:50:36pm |
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Hey Missy! Almost a yr now...Miss the Welsh accent, that's for sure...hope you're well.
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Been really busy, moving house, changing jobs, listening to more 1973 shows.... :) xx
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August 02, 2012 09:05:09pm |
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arguably, good point!!
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August 02, 2012 08:18:55am |
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I think part of the reason Bob thinks so highly of that period is that he was more a "leader" , showman in this period, and the band was relatively tight and energetic .
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August 01, 2012 11:06:55am |
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I think a Spring 1990 collection is appropriate, but I find the show selection sort of mystifying. Much of 3/24 is on the Dozin' release, but only Eyes has been released from 3/29, right?
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August 01, 2012 06:07:53pm |
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Birdsong from 3/29 is on the five disc box set. Even Garcia said it was among his favorite shows...
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August 01, 2012 11:44:22am |
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So why not just the whole tour, I wonder. They're billing this as a "collection," when it's closer to a "selection."
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what are the shows they have selected for this release? i cant go to their website at work
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August 01, 2012 03:10:54pm |
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6 complete shows on 18 discs
3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
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August 01, 2012 06:46:47pm |
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I thought today was August 1st, not April 1st. Sad.
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August 01, 2012 07:38:22pm |
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I wonder what percentage of Dead.net shoppers known about Archive.org or are old tape traders. If the percentage is low, I can see why they did this - there is some really good music here and they want to make the GD's whole catalog available in high quality. If the percentage is high, it makes no sense - not many sales.
In either case it is very clear that's only a matter of time before there will be very little left to stream.
Edit: Just had a thought...
Considering that there will be little to stream at some point. It would be really cool if they made all official releases available on-line for a subscription fee. Then we wouldn't have to buy all those CDs or download so much on our computers.
This post was modified by reviewr on 2012-08-02 02:38:22
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August 01, 2012 07:43:36pm |
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They never pulled any of the Dave's Picks shows, is that unprecedented for official releases?
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August 01, 2012 08:15:45pm |
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I haven't been following the commercial releases very closely, but I must have missed a lot if they are even coming close to 2137 (38) commercial releases.
Don't worry but I think streaming dead is OK for now. Plus, the AUDS should remain. Well, unless bobby adopts a kid and has further college expenses, then all bets are off.
For some reason thinking of the end of streaming dead has me recalling the end-of-the-universe scene with Dr Flicker from Annie Hall:
INT. DOCTOR'S OFFICE-DAY
Alvy as young boy sits on a sofa with his mother in an old-fashioned, cluttered doctor's office. The doctor stands near the sofa, holding a cigarette and listening.
MOTHER
(To the doctor)
He's been depressed. All off a sudden, he can't do anything.
DOCTOR
(Nodding)
Why are you depressed, Alvy?
MOTHER
(Nudging Alvy)
Tell Dr. Flicker.
(Young Alvy sits, his head down. His mother answers for him) It's something he read.
DOCTOR
(Puffing on his cigarette and nodding)
Something he read, huh?
ALVY
(His head still down)
The universe is expanding.
DOCTOR
The universe is expanding?
ALVY
(Looking up at the doctor)
Well, the universe is everything, and if
it's expanding, someday it will break apart
and that would be the end of everything!
Disgusted, his mother looks at him.
MOTHER
(shouting)
What is that your business?
(she turns back to the doctor)
He stopped doing his homework.
ALVY
What's the point?
MOTHER
(Excited, gesturing with her hands)
What has the universe got to do with it?
You're here in Brooklyn! Brooklyn is not expanding!
DOCTOR
(Heartily, looking down at Alvy)
It won't be expanding for billions of years
yet, Alvy. And we've gotta try to enjoy
ourselves while we're here. Uh?
He laughs.
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August 01, 2012 08:16:15pm |
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This is the very first release that I will not purchase. I have every single commercial release since the first album. Enough is enough for me. I am not a big fan of the '90's. I have enough from that period. I guess this old man is petering out and it's left up to you young'uns to continue the support. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the idea of releasing the material but seeing I wouldn't listen I'm out for the first time. It's not the money it's just I've had enough.
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I think it is an "interesting" way to approach things ,the one show per run thing . I know DL wanted to do a Spring 90 thing, but I thought it would be issued further away from the E72 box . I thought they would do 2/3 night run like the Warlocks, set . Once again , I was wrong . I really thought it was going to be an early to mid 80's thing .
I'm with you Ice9freak, the memorabilia does nothing for me, except jack up the price . Once again, I winced, and put my money on the table (I even though about the 2 cd set), but I am more excited about the new 71 Dave's Picks that I hope is here soon, than this set .
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August 02, 2012 08:09:11pm |
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No Branford Show THE HORROR
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August 03, 2012 07:02:20am |
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Totally agree. I saw this entire tour except Canada. Branford show is up there with the all time greats. Good shows, and I can see the attraction, but the whole thing has gotten retarded with the limited release, repeal of board downloads from IA, then the high price for the set which lacks some of the best music. Being a market person, I can say that this is not the way to go if you are looking to sustain long term. Pokaround and get your tunes elsewhere... while you can.
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August 02, 2012 08:59:13pm |
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over 11 bucks a disc. seems a bit steep, no?
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August 03, 2012 12:32:18am |
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Europe '72 box $450 for 73 discs
Spring '90 box $200 for 18 discs
Either those fake ticket stubs are made of gold or they are using inflation-adjusted pricing based on the year of the shows in the release. If the latter is true, then our friend William Tell will be happy. If a '68 box came out, they would sell it for about 3 bucks a disc!
Tour pass and ticket stubs? Do people really want this stuff? I understand having a book but what do you do with ticket stubs to shows you didn't actually attend? Even for a demographic that includes people who have multiple transfers of the same show or will go see a cover band recreate a show, this seems a little too dorky.
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August 03, 2012 06:30:44am |
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This is the last time I'll bring it up, but forget the memorabilia, give me the WHOLE TOUR and skip the junk. That's what was awesome about E72: a nice hardbound book and then nothing but the shows!
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